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		<description><![CDATA[Title:        When Black becomes White &#8211; On Some Footnotes of Greg L. Bahnsen By:             Benjamin Wong Date:         May 14, 2009 Outline 1.    Introduction 2.    The Logic of Van Til&#8217;s analogical knowledge 3.    Van Til picked a fight 4.    Why did Van Til picked a fight? 5.    Clark has an answer [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=logosandreason.wordpress.com&amp;blog=7769964&amp;post=3&amp;subd=logosandreason&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Title:        When Black becomes White &#8211; On Some Footnotes of Greg L. Bahnsen<br />
By:             Benjamin Wong<br />
Date:         May 14, 2009</p>
<p>Outline</p>
<p>1.    Introduction<br />
2.    The Logic of Van Til&#8217;s analogical knowledge<br />
3.    Van Til picked a fight<br />
4.    Why did Van Til picked a fight?<br />
5.    Clark has an answer<br />
6.    Shifting the ground of debate &#8211; 3 responses to Clark<br />
7.    Bahnsen wrote a book<br />
8.    Example 1: Why did Clark left the OPC?<br />
9.    Example 2: Is the Bible the highest authority in Clark&#8217;s philosophy?<br />
10.    Example 3: Bahnsen the revisionist<br />
11.    Example 4: The two horns of a dilemma<br />
12.    Example 5: When black becomes white<br />
13.    Example 6: Saddling Clark with an error<br />
14.    Example 7: Saddling Clark with another error<br />
15.    Conclusion: My take of what happened</p>
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<p>1.    Introduction</p>
<p>These notes are about the Clark-Van Til Controversy (1944-48).</p>
<p>In particular, they are about just one aspect of that Controversy -<br />
the debate about the incomprehensibility of God.</p>
<p>The Controversy occurred in the 1940s in the Orthodox Presbyterian<br />
Church (OPC).</p>
<p>The protagonists were Gordon H. Clark and Cornelius Van Til.</p>
<p>Since the theological and philosophical questions debated during the<br />
Controversy are important in its own rights, it has been commented<br />
upon by subsequent writers.</p>
<p>These notes were originally reading notes on (Bahnsen 1998).</p>
<p>I have subsequently posted some of them to an internet egroup.</p>
<p>I was very critical of Bahnsen’s handling of the Clark-Van Til<br />
Controversy.</p>
<p>I still am.</p>
<p>But in rewriting those notes and posts into this essay, I have decided<br />
to tone down the rhetoric against Bahnsen.</p>
<p>2.    The logic of Van Til&#8217;s analogical knowledge</p>
<p>2.1    There are certain questions any epistemological theory must answer:</p>
<p>(a)    What is the subject of knowledge? (That which knows.)</p>
<p>(b)    What is the object of knowledge? (That which is known.)</p>
<p>(c)    How does a subject acquire an object of knowledge?<br />
(The mechanism of knowledge acquisition.)</p>
<p>2.2    The logic of Van Til&#8217;s analogical knowledge is rather simple.</p>
<p>The creator-creation distinction is an ontological distinction between<br />
God and his creation.</p>
<p>Van Til&#8217;s applies the creator-creation distinction to all three<br />
epistemological questions above.</p>
<p>Thus, for Van Til:</p>
<p>(a)    The creator-creation distinction implies that the subject of<br />
knowledge is ontologically different: God is uncreated Creator<br />
but human persons are created creatures.</p>
<p>(b)    The creator-creation distinction implies that the object of<br />
knowledge is ontologically different between creator and<br />
creature: The object of God&#8217;s knowledge is uncreated but<br />
the object of human&#8217;s knowledge is created.</p>
<p>(c)    The creator-creation distinction implies that the mechanism<br />
of knowledge acquisition is ontologically different between<br />
creator and creature: The mechanism of knowledge<br />
acquisition for God is uncreated but the mechanism of<br />
knowledge acquisition for human persons are created.</p>
<p>2.3    As a good Reformed believer, Van Til also believes that human<br />
persons are created in the image of God.</p>
<p>As an image-bearer of God, human persons as knower reflect God<br />
as knower.</p>
<p>How do human persons reflect God epistemologically?</p>
<p>Van Til calls this relation &#8220;analogical&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Analogical&#8221; is meant to convey the idea that there are both<br />
similarities and differences between God as knower and human<br />
persons as knower.</p>
<p>There are similarities because human persons are created in the<br />
image of God and therefore reflect God as knower.</p>
<p>There are differences because human persons are created in the<br />
image of God and therefore there is an underlying ontological<br />
difference between the creator and creature as knower.</p>
<p>3.    Van Til picked a Fight</p>
<p>The Clark-Van Til Controversy was started by Van Til and his<br />
colleagues.</p>
<p>In 1944, Gordon H. Clark was ordained to the ministry of the<br />
Orthodox Presbyterian Church.</p>
<p>Van Til and his colleagues filed a complaint against Clark&#8217;s ordination.</p>
<p>Leaving the church politics aside, the main doctrinal issue was the<br />
incomprehensibility of God.</p>
<p>The doctrine of the incomprehensibility of God is the claim that<br />
human persons can know some, but not all, truths about God.</p>
<p>4.    Why did Van Til picked a fight?</p>
<p>4.1    Recall that Van Til applied the creator-creation distinction to<br />
epistemology.</p>
<p>The creator-creation distinction is an ontological distinction.</p>
<p>One result of the application is that the object of knowledge for God<br />
is ontologically different from the object of knowledge for human<br />
persons.</p>
<p>Now Clark is an Augustinian.</p>
<p>For an Augustinian, the object of knowledge is truth.</p>
<p>Since Clark believes all truths are propositional, the object of<br />
knowledge is a proposition.</p>
<p>For Clark, that the object of knowledge is a proposition is true of<br />
both God and human persons.</p>
<p>For Clark, both God and human person knows the identical<br />
propositions.</p>
<p>But for Van Til, who applies the ontological creator-creation<br />
distinction to the object of knowledge, the proposition God knows<br />
must be ontologically different from the proposition human persons<br />
know.</p>
<p>For Van Til, God and human persons knowing the identical<br />
propositions means violating the creator-creation distinction.</p>
<p>Clark and Van Til disagree with each other.</p>
<p>4.2    The document Van Til and his colleagues filed against Clark was<br />
called [The Text of a Complaint Against the Philadelphia Presbytery<br />
of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church].</p>
<p>The following is summary of [The Text of a Complaint] on the issue<br />
of the incomprehensibility of God by Herman Hoeksema.</p>
<p>(Hoeksema [1940s] 1995, 7):</p>
<p>What, then, is the exact point of difference?</p>
<p>According to the complainants, it is this, that, while they hold that<br />
the difference between the contents of the knowledge of God and<br />
the contents of our knowledge is both qualitative and quantitative,<br />
Dr. Clark insists that it is only quantitative. And here the complaints<br />
mention three specific points of difference between Dr. Clark&#8217;s view<br />
and their own:</p>
<p>1. According to Dr. Clark all truth, in God and in man, is propositional,<br />
i.e., assumes the form of propositions (God is good, man is mortal,<br />
two times two are four, the whole is greater than any of its parts,<br />
etc. &#8211; H.H.). The complaints deny this, at least with regard to God&#8217;s<br />
knowledge.</p>
<p>2. Dr. Clark holds that man&#8217;s knowledge of any proposition is<br />
identical with God&#8217;s knowledge of the same proposition. Any<br />
proposition has the same meaning for God as for man. The<br />
complainants deny this. As an item of interest we may mention here<br />
that during the examination of Dr. Clark by the Presbytery of<br />
Philadelphia the question was asked him: &#8220;You would say then, that<br />
all that is revealed in the Scripture is capable of being comprehended<br />
by the mind of man?&#8221; And the answer was given by him: &#8220;Oh yes,<br />
that is what is given us for, to understand it&#8221; (5).</p>
<p>3. Dr. Clark teaches that God&#8217;s knowledge consists of an infinite<br />
Number of propositions, while only a finite number can ever be<br />
revealed to man. And this shows that, according to him, the<br />
difference between God&#8217;s knowledge and man&#8217;s knowledge is only<br />
quantitative: God simply knows infinitely more than man. The<br />
complainants insist that it is also qualitative: It also concerns the<br />
question as to the nature and mode of God&#8217;s knowledge and ours.</p>
<p>4.3    The doctrine at issue is the incomprehensibility of God &#8211; the claim<br />
that human persons can know some, but not all, truths about God.</p>
<p>Both Clark and Van Til formally subscribe to this doctrine, but they<br />
understand it very differently.</p>
<p>Clark believes that &#8220;man&#8217;s knowledge of any proposition is identical<br />
with God&#8217;s knowledge of the same proposition. Any proposition has<br />
the same meaning for God as for man.&#8221;</p>
<p>Van Til&#8217;s deny this.</p>
<p>Why did Van Til deny this?</p>
<p>It is because Van Til applies the creator-creation distinction to the<br />
object of knowledge and concludes that the object of God&#8217;s<br />
knowledge must be ontologically different from the object of<br />
human&#8217;s knowledge.</p>
<p>Since the objects of knowledge are propositions, the propositions<br />
human knows cannot be identical to the propositions God knows.</p>
<p>The creator-creation distinction forbids this.</p>
<p>The proposition man knows, according to Van Til, must be<br />
qualitatively different from the proposition God knows.</p>
<p>The logic of Van Til position is simple and clear.</p>
<p>5.    Clark has an answer</p>
<p>5.1    What was Clark&#8217;s answer to Van Til&#8217;s complaints?</p>
<p>Clark&#8217;s answer was that Van Til&#8217;s position would lead to scepticism.</p>
<p>5.2    Clark and his supporters replied to [The Text of a Complaint] in a<br />
document called [The Answer].</p>
<p>In the following, Herman Hoeksema quoted at length from [The<br />
Answer].</p>
<p>(Hoeksema [1940s] 1995, 9-10):</p>
<p>Let us learn, then, from [The Answer] just what is Dr. Clark&#8217;s view of<br />
the incomprehensibility of God. We quote:</p>
<p>The view of the Complaint is that &#8220;God because of his very nature<br />
must remain incomprehensible to man&#8221;; it is &#8220;not the doctrine that<br />
God can be known only if he makes himself known and in so far as he<br />
makes himself known.&#8221; Moreover, all knowledge which man can<br />
attain differs from the knowledge of God &#8220;in a qualitative sense and<br />
not merely in degree.&#8221; Thus God&#8217;s knowledge and man&#8217;s knowledge<br />
do not &#8220;coincide at a single point.&#8221; A proposition does not &#8220;have the<br />
same meaning for man as for God.&#8221; Man&#8217;s knowledge is &#8220;analogical<br />
to the knowledge God possesses, but it can never be identified with<br />
the knowledge&#8221; which God &#8220;possesses of the same proposition.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;The divine knowledge as divine transcends human knowledge as<br />
human, even when that human knowledge is a knowledge<br />
communicated by God.&#8221; &#8220;Because of his very nature as infinite and<br />
absolute the knowledge which God possesses of himself and of all<br />
things must remain a mystery which the finite mind cannot<br />
penetrate.&#8221; This latter statement does not mean merely that man<br />
cannot penetrate this mystery unaided by revelation: It means that<br />
even revelation by God could not make man understand the mystery,<br />
for the preceding sentences assert that it is the nature of God that<br />
renders him incomprehensible, not the lack of a revelation about it.<br />
As the analysis proceeds, these quotations with the argument from<br />
which they are taken will be seen to imply two chief points. First,<br />
there is some truth that God cannot put into propositional form; this<br />
portion of truth cannot be expressed conceptually. Second, the<br />
portion of truth that God can express in propositional form never has<br />
the same meaning for man as it has for God. Every proposition that<br />
man knows has a qualitatively different meaning for God. Man can<br />
grasp only an analogy of the truth, which, because it is an analogy, is<br />
not the truth itself.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Dr. Clark contends that the doctrine of the<br />
incomprehensibility of God as set forth in Scripture and in the<br />
Confession of Faith includes the following points: 1. The essence of<br />
God&#8217;s being is incomprehensible to man except as God reveals truths<br />
concerning his own nature. 2. The manner of God&#8217;s knowledge, an<br />
eternal intuition, is impossible for man. 3. Man can never know<br />
exhaustively and completely God&#8217;s knowledge of any truth in all its<br />
relationships and implications; because every truth has an infinite<br />
number of relationships and implications and since each of these<br />
implications in turn has other infinite implications, these must ever,<br />
even in heaven, remain inexhaustible for man. 4. But, Dr. Clark<br />
maintains, the doctrine of the incomprehensibility of God does not<br />
mean that a proposition, e.g. two times two are four, has one<br />
meaning for man and a tentatively different meaning for God, or<br />
that some truth is conceptual and other truth is non-conceptual in<br />
nature (9. 19)</p>
<p>5.3    We will set aside the question whether there are non-propositional<br />
truths since this question did not figure prominently in the<br />
subsequent debates.</p>
<p>Granting that there are non-propositional truths for the sake of<br />
argument, Clark&#8217;s answer to Van Til was clear and unambiguous:</p>
<p>(a)    If the portion of truth that God can express in propositional<br />
form never has the same meaning for man as it has for God,</p>
<p>(b)    then every proposition that man knows has a qualitatively<br />
different meaning for God.</p>
<p>(c)    Therefore, man can grasp only an analogy of the truth,<br />
which, because it is an analogy, is not the truth itself.</p>
<p>Since human persons cannot know the truth itself, man is reduced<br />
to scepticism.</p>
<p>Applying the creator-creation distinction to the object of knowledge<br />
leads to scepticism.</p>
<p>5.4    I like to impress upon the readers that many of the phrases found in<br />
[The Text of a Complaint] is a direct result of Van Til applying the<br />
creator-creation distinction to the object of knowledge.</p>
<p>Van Til concluded from the application that the object of knowledge<br />
for God must be ontologically different from the object of knowledge<br />
for human persons.</p>
<p>(a)    The view of the Complaint is that &#8220;God because of his very<br />
nature must remain incomprehensible to man&#8221;; it is &#8220;not the<br />
doctrine that God can be known only if he makes himself<br />
known and in so far as he makes himself known.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why, for Van Til, God by his nature must remain<br />
incomprehensible to man?</p>
<p>Because of the creator-creation distinction!</p>
<p>God is ontologically different from human persons.</p>
<p>(b)    Moreover, all knowledge which man can attain differs from<br />
the knowledge of God &#8220;in a qualitative sense and not merely<br />
in degree.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why, for Van Til, that all knowledge of God differs<br />
qualitatively from the knowledge of human persons?</p>
<p>Because the creator-creation distinction implies an ontological<br />
difference between the object of God&#8217;s knowledge and the<br />
object of human knowledge.</p>
<p>(c)    Thus God&#8217;s knowledge and man&#8217;s knowledge do not &#8220;coincide<br />
at a single point.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why, for Van Til, God&#8217;s knowledge and man&#8217;s knowledge do<br />
not coincide at a single point?</p>
<p>Because the creator-creation distinction implies an ontological<br />
difference between the object of God&#8217;s knowledge and the<br />
object of human knowledge.</p>
<p>(d)    A proposition does not &#8220;have the same meaning for man as for<br />
God.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why, for Van Til, that a proposition does not have the same<br />
meaning for man as for God?</p>
<p>Because the creator-creation distinction implies an ontological<br />
difference between the object of God&#8217;s knowledge and the<br />
object of human knowledge.</p>
<p>(e)    Man&#8217;s knowledge is &#8220;analogical to the knowledge God<br />
possesses, but it can never be identified with the knowledge&#8221;<br />
which God &#8220;possesses of the same proposition.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why, for Van Til, man&#8217;s knowledge is analogical to God&#8217;s<br />
knowledge, but can never be identified with God knowledge of<br />
the same proposition?</p>
<p>Because the creator-creation distinction implies an ontological<br />
difference between the object of God&#8217;s knowledge and the<br />
object of human knowledge.</p>
<p>(f)    &#8221;The divine knowledge as divine transcends human knowledge<br />
as human, even when that human knowledge is a knowledge<br />
communicated by God.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why, for Van Til, the divine knowledge as divine transcends<br />
human knowledge as human, even when that human<br />
knowledge is a knowledge communicated by God?</p>
<p>Because the creator-creation distinction implies an ontological<br />
difference between the object of God&#8217;s knowledge and the<br />
object of human knowledge.</p>
<p>6.    Shifting the ground of debate &#8211; 3 responses to Clark</p>
<p>I think Van Til and all who follow him felt the force of Clark&#8217;s<br />
criticism.</p>
<p>And they responded differently.</p>
<p>I will now briefly survey three responses to Clark by the Van Tilians<br />
before coming to Greg L. Bahnsen.</p>
<p>6.1    First, Van Til himself wrote a post-mortem to the Clark-Van Til<br />
Controversy in &#8220;Chapter 13 &#8211; The Incomprehensibility of God&#8221; of<br />
(Van Til [1949] 1978).</p>
<p>I owned a 1978 reprint of this book.</p>
<p>The specific pages dealing with Clark are from 167 to 173.</p>
<p>In them, Van Til made four points against Clark.</p>
<p>Of all people, John M. Frame has a point-by-point refutation of Van<br />
Til in (Frame 1995, 108-113).</p>
<p>I must say that when I first read this portion of his book, I have<br />
the greatest of admirations for Professor Frame.</p>
<p>Frame was a student of Van Til and then became one of his successor<br />
at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.</p>
<p>Frame is probably the premiere interpreter of Van Til living.</p>
<p>Yet, Frame is not afraid to call a spade a spade.</p>
<p>Criticizing Van Til in a book dedicated to promote his thought takes<br />
courage.</p>
<p>My hats off to Professor Frame.</p>
<p>6.2    Second, Gilbert B. Weaver wrote an essay &#8220;Man: Analogue of God&#8221;<br />
(Weaver [1971] 1980).</p>
<p>Now, Weaver correctly noted that the creator-creation distinction<br />
&#8220;raises the fundamental question of how the two levels of being and<br />
knowledge are related. The answer to this Van Til calls analogy.&#8221;<br />
(Weaver [1971] 1980, 324)</p>
<p>But Weaver analysis danced around the issue whether God and man<br />
knows the identical propositions.</p>
<p>Does applying the creator-creation distinction to the object of<br />
knowledge results in two different kinds of propositions?</p>
<p>Does Van Til&#8217;s analogy relate two kinds of propositions: one<br />
uncreated (the object of God&#8217;s knowledge) while the other created<br />
(the object of human knowledge)?</p>
<p>No answer.</p>
<p>Very disappointing.</p>
<p>6.3    Third, Frame made two proposals to resolve the Clark-Van Til<br />
Controversy (Frame 1995, 104-108).</p>
<p>Frame labeled the proposals as:</p>
<p>(a) &#8220;contents&#8221; as experience, and</p>
<p>(b) &#8220;contents&#8221; as attributes.</p>
<p>Recall that Van Til applied the creator-creation distinction to<br />
epistemology and deny that a proposition has the same meaning<br />
for man as for God.</p>
<p>Since a proposition is itself the bearer of truth and meaning, denying<br />
that a proposition has the same meaning for God as for man<br />
amounts to denying that God and man can know the same<br />
propositions.</p>
<p>Clark answered that if God and man do not know the identical<br />
propositions but man only knows an analogy of what God knows,<br />
then man does not know any truths.</p>
<p>Applying the creator-creation distinction to the object of knowledge<br />
leads to skepticism.</p>
<p>Van Til felt the force of Clark&#8217;s criticism.</p>
<p>After [the Answer], the position of Van Til and his colleagues became<br />
vague and ambiguous.</p>
<p>The reason is simple: Van Til has no case left against Clark.</p>
<p>Not willing to admit that they have made a mistake and withdraw<br />
[The Text of a Complainant], the Van Tilians surreptitiously shifted<br />
their ground.</p>
<p>That is how the term &#8220;content of thought&#8221; became the focus of the<br />
later debate.</p>
<p>&#8220;Content of thought&#8221; has a clear enough meaning, but the term is<br />
plastic enough that one can bend it and fill it with other meanings.</p>
<p>&#8220;Content of thought&#8221; is what a thinker of thought thinks.</p>
<p>It is an object of thought.</p>
<p>If the context is about knowledge, then the &#8220;content of thought&#8221;<br />
is a proposition.</p>
<p>This is because a person knows truths and all truths are<br />
propositional.</p>
<p>What a person thinks when he knows truths is a proposition.</p>
<p>Recall from the summary of [The Text of a Complaint] by Hoeksema<br />
(see section 4.2 above) &#8211; at the beginning of the Controversy,<br />
“content” refers to propositions.</p>
<p>What is Frame doing with his two proposals?</p>
<p>Frame is trying to filled &#8220;content of thought&#8221; with a meaning that<br />
is different from an object of thought and unnatural in context.</p>
<p>Frame is trying to fill &#8220;content&#8221; with experience or attributes rather<br />
than propositions.</p>
<p>Frame does so in order to resolve the Clark-Van Til Controversy.</p>
<p>I do not think the proposals work.</p>
<p>But rather than digress into a long explanation of why I do not<br />
think Frame proposals works, let me note the following two<br />
consequences of his proposal:</p>
<p>(a)    Frame has shifted the ground of debate of the Clark-Van Til<br />
Controversy away from proposition (an object of thought)<br />
to experience (of a subject of thought) and attribute (the<br />
divine attributes);</p>
<p>(b)    Frame left the original question of the debate unresolved:<br />
Does applying the creator-creation distinction to epistemology<br />
results in two kinds of propositions &#8211; uncreated propositions<br />
as objects of God&#8217;s knowledge and created propositions as<br />
objects of man&#8217;s knowledge?</p>
<p>Frame himself note that &#8220;I am a bit amazed that with all the<br />
intellectual firepower expended on this issue during the 1940s,<br />
nobody made use of these or some similar formulations to bring<br />
the parties together.&#8221; (Frame 1995, 107)</p>
<p>I am not amazed.</p>
<p>I am not amazed because the disagreements between Clark and<br />
Van Til were substantial and not verbal.</p>
<p>Shifting the ground of debate does only that &#8211; the ground of the<br />
debate has been shifted.</p>
<p>Shifting the ground of debate does not resolve the original<br />
disagreements.</p>
<p>I appreciate Professor Frame&#8217;s irenic spirit.</p>
<p>But when there are real intellectual disagreements, it is better to<br />
argue it out than to cover it up in the name of peace and harmony.</p>
<p>6.4    Van Til had a theory.</p>
<p>Van Til believes that applying the creator-creation distinction (an<br />
ontological distinction) to the object of knowledge will result in two<br />
kinds of propositions: one uncreated and one created.</p>
<p>When he filed [The Text of a Complaint], Van Til knew what he was<br />
complaining about.</p>
<p>But Clark&#8217;s [the Answer] pointed out the skeptical implications of<br />
this move.</p>
<p>Van Til did not have the courage to admit he made a mistake and<br />
withdraw [The Text of a Complaint].</p>
<p>Thereafter, Van Til position became fuzzy.</p>
<p>Van Til position became fuzzy because he had to hide the fact that<br />
he has no case left against Clark.</p>
<p>7.    Bahnsen wrote a book</p>
<p>Greg L. Bahnsen wrote a book about Van Til called [Van Til's<br />
Apologetic: Readings and Analysis] and was published in 1998.</p>
<p>Bahnsen showed insights into Van Til&#8217;s thinking’s.</p>
<p>Recognizing that Bahnsen&#8217;s book is about Van Til and not Clark, I<br />
nevertheless find Bahnsen treatment of Clark and the Clark-Van Til<br />
Controversy heavy-handed and very misleading.</p>
<p>8.    Example 1: Why did Clark left the OPC?</p>
<p>8.1    (Bahnsen 1998, 16-17):</p>
<p>Many well-known Christian scholars and teachers in America<br />
studied under Van Til, including the popular apologists Edward J.<br />
Carnell and Francis Schaeffer. During his career, Van Til also dealt<br />
in a critical fashion with the apologists J. Oliver Buswell (an<br />
inductivist) and Gordon Clark (a deductivist), both of whom were<br />
at one time ministers in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church. In the<br />
mid-1930s, Buswell left that communion, subsequently taking issue<br />
with Van Til&#8217;s consistent Calvinism and philosophical<br />
presuppositionalism. In the mid-1940s, Clark became embroiled<br />
in ecclesiastical controversy over his views of God&#8217;s<br />
incomprehensibility, the primacy of the intellect, and other<br />
matters, eventually leaving the denomination and severely<br />
criticizing Van Til&#8217;s theory of knowledge.</p>
<p>8.2    Bahnsen description is formally correct but very misleading:</p>
<p>(a)    Bahnsen: In the mid-1940s, Clark became embroiled in<br />
ecclesiastical controversy over his views of God&#8217;s<br />
incomprehensibility, the primacy of the intellect, and other<br />
matters &#8230;</p>
<p>But did Bahnsen tell his readers why Clark became embroiled<br />
in ecclesiastical controversy?</p>
<p>It was because Van Til and his colleagues filed a complaint<br />
against Clark&#8217;s ordination in the OPC!</p>
<p>(b)    Bahnsen: &#8230;eventually leaving the denomination and severely<br />
criticizing Van Til&#8217;s theory of knowledge.</p>
<p>Here, Bahnsen gave his readers the impression that after<br />
&#8220;leaving the denomination [OPC]&#8220;, Clark began to &#8220;severely<br />
criticizing Van Til&#8217;s theory of knowledge&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is disingenuous and misleading.</p>
<p>(c)    Why did Clark left the OPC?</p>
<p>Clark left the OPC because after failing to defrock him, Van Til<br />
and his colleagues than goes after Floyd E. Hamilton, a Clark<br />
supporter during the Controversy.</p>
<p>We have to read John W. Robbins (1986, 32-32) to get a fairer<br />
picture of what happened:</p>
<p>Despite, or perhaps because of, their failure to defrock Dr.<br />
Clark, the Van Til faction immediately brought similar charges<br />
against one of the men who had been defending Clark. Rather<br />
than face another three years of harassment, the defenders<br />
of Clark left the O.P.C. in disgust, and Dr. Clark went with<br />
them. Clark&#8217;s defenders saw no point in waging another battle<br />
like the one they had just fought and won against a stubborn<br />
faction of men who were less than enthusiastic about the<br />
peace and purity of the church. The faction&#8217;s complaint against<br />
Dr. Clark was described in 1948 by the Presbytery of Ohio as<br />
&#8220;employing harshly unrestrained and rashly unqualified<br />
language &#8230; to the defaming of the reputation of Dr. Gordon H.<br />
Clark by unproven allegations of rationalism [and] humanistic<br />
intellectualism &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>8.3    As Herman Hoeksema had written, the Clark-Van Til Controversy<br />
should be an academic debate and not an ecclesiastical controversy.</p>
<p>Cornelius Van Til and his colleagues made it into an ecclesiastical<br />
controversy.</p>
<p>Fifty years later, Greg L. Bahnsen sugar-coated the facts and gave<br />
misleading impressions to his readers.</p>
<p>This to promote his mentor Cornelius Van Til.</p>
<p>This is not good.</p>
<p>9.    Example 2: Is the Bible the highest authority in Clark&#8217;s philosophy?</p>
<p>9.1    (Bahnsen 1998, 17 n.57):</p>
<p>See chap. 8.5 below. Clark&#8217;s own epistemology at first demanded<br />
that the Bible be treated as a hypothesis that must pass the test<br />
of logical coherence in order to be accepted. See &#8220;Special Divine<br />
Revelation as Rational,&#8221; in Revelation and the Bible, ed. Carl F.H.<br />
Henry (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1959), 37; A Christian View of<br />
Men and Things (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1952), 24-25, 31, 92,<br />
147, 273, 318, 324. He claimed: &#8220;The attempt to show the Bible&#8217;s<br />
logical consistency is, I believe, the best method of defending<br />
inspiration&#8221; (&#8220;How May I know the Bible Is Inspired?&#8221; in Can I<br />
trust My Bible? [Chicago: Moody Press, 1963], 23).</p>
<p>But Clark later went so far as to deny altogether that knowledge<br />
is derived through sense observation &#8211; a position that has been<br />
easily reduced to skepticism, since one must use one&#8217;s senses to<br />
gain knowledge even from the Bible. See &#8220;The Wheaton Lectures,&#8221;<br />
in The Philosophy of Gordon H. Clark, ed. Ronald H. Nash<br />
(Philadelphia: Presbyterian and Reformed, 1968), 23-122; cf.<br />
Ronald Nash, &#8220;Gordon Clark&#8217;s Theory of Knowledge,&#8221; 125-75.<br />
Though sometimes called a presuppositionalist, the later Clark<br />
actually treated Christianity as an unprovable, fideistic first axiom,<br />
which is merely chosen or posited (Three Types of Religious<br />
Philosophy [Nutley, N.J.: Craig Press, 1973], 7-8, 104-7, 110).<br />
In both his rationalistic and his fideistic phases, Clark fell<br />
short of treating the Bible as the highest (self-attesting)<br />
authority and as the basis for a transcendental challenge to<br />
unbelief.</p>
<p>9.2    Bahnsen: &#8220;Clark&#8217;s own epistemology at first demanded that the<br />
Bible be treated as a hypothesis that must pass the test of<br />
logical coherence in order to be accepted.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe coherence is a necessary but not sufficient condition<br />
for the truth of a set of propositions.</p>
<p>Any set of claims that are inconsistent must contain one or more<br />
errors somewhere.</p>
<p>If God reveals only truths and no falsehoods, and if the Bible is<br />
the Word of God, then the Biblical claims must be consistent.</p>
<p>Any set of claims that contain inconsistency, therefore, cannot<br />
be wholly the Word of God.</p>
<p>This is only simple logic.</p>
<p>It is only for the Van Tilian&#8217;s love for &#8220;apparent contradiction&#8221;<br />
that Bahnsen can make an issue out of this.</p>
<p>9.3    Bahnsen: He claimed: &#8220;The attempt to show the Bible&#8217;s logical<br />
consistency is, I believe, the best method of defending<br />
inspiration&#8221;.</p>
<p>What is wrong with this?</p>
<p>I think this shows insight on Clark&#8217;s part.</p>
<p>9.4    Bahnsen: But Clark later went so far as to deny altogether that<br />
knowledge is derived through sense observation &#8211; a position that<br />
has been easily reduced to skepticism, since one must use one&#8217;s<br />
senses to gain knowledge even from the Bible.</p>
<p>Clark denied empiricism, the claim that knowledge acquisition<br />
begins with sensation and a blank mind.</p>
<p>If Bahnsen was careful in reading Clark, he should have noticed<br />
that Clark never denied that our senses can play a part in<br />
knowledge acquisition.</p>
<p>What Clark claimed is that the empiricist has failed to specify<br />
the part play by the senses in knowledge acquisition.</p>
<p>There is a big difference between the two claims.</p>
<p>Bahnsen, being the scholar he was, should know better.</p>
<p>9.5    Bahnsen: Though sometimes called a presuppositionalist, the<br />
later Clark actually treated Christianity as an unprovable, fideistic<br />
first axiom, which is merely chosen or posited.</p>
<p>Some have observed that some Van Tilian attempted to prove<br />
their first axiom or presuppositions.</p>
<p>One wonders what they are presupposing: their presuppositions<br />
or what they used to prove their presuppositions.</p>
<p>Does Clark allows that the Biblical claims be refutable if false?</p>
<p>My opinion is that Clark does allow refutation.</p>
<p>That is one reason why Clark engaged in apologetics &#8211; to refute<br />
the claim that the Bible contains falsehoods.</p>
<p>Maybe we can use the Popperian terminology and called a claim<br />
that was tested but not yet falsified &#8220;corroborated&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think Clark&#8217;s philosophy allows for the &#8220;corroboration&#8221; of<br />
Biblical claims.</p>
<p>9.6    Bahnsen: In both his rationalistic and his fideistic phases, Clark<br />
fell short of treating the Bible as the highest (self-attesting)<br />
authority and as the basis for a transcendental challenge to<br />
unbelief.</p>
<p>This is not a fair statement of Clark&#8217;s position.</p>
<p>Can Bahnsen see that there is no inconsistency between the<br />
following two claims:</p>
<p>(a)    Epistemologically, the Bible is the highest (self-attesting)<br />
authority; and</p>
<p>(b)    Methodologically, the Bible may be treated as a posit or a<br />
hypothesis.</p>
<p>Treating the Biblical claims methodologically as posits does not<br />
imply that epistemologically, one has to doubt the truth of what<br />
the Bible claimed.</p>
<p>As W.V.O.Quine has written: to call a posit a posit is not to<br />
patronize it.</p>
<p>The fact that Clark treats the Bible as the axioms of his philosophy<br />
speaks for itself.</p>
<p>One wonders why there are continuous acrimony between the<br />
Clarkians and the Van Tilians?</p>
<p>Bahnsen, with his scholarly reputation, could have done something<br />
to end the acrimony.</p>
<p>I do not expect Bahnsen to agree with Clark.</p>
<p>But Bahnsen could have helped end the acrimony by treating Clark&#8217;s<br />
position fairly.</p>
<p>I am disappointed he did not.</p>
<p>10.    Example 3: Bahnsen the revisionist</p>
<p>10.1    (Bahnsen 1998, 227 n.152):</p>
<p>The vague expression &#8220;thought content&#8221; has played havoc in many<br />
a theological and philosophical dispute, and its ability to generate<br />
confusion was conspicuous in the Clark-Van Til controversy as<br />
well. I believe that by &#8220;thought content&#8221; Van Til meant the thinking<br />
activity in which the mind of God engages, which mental<br />
&#8220;experience&#8221; (notice the very next sentence in Van Til&#8217;s text) is<br />
metaphysically different from the operations of man&#8217;s mind.</p>
<p>To understand Van Til, the reader must remember his resistance<br />
to the notion of &#8220;abstract knowledge&#8221; or &#8220;abstract truth&#8221; &#8211; the<br />
notion that there are ideas that exist in themselves, apart from<br />
God&#8217;s mind and man&#8217;s mind, and to which both minds must look<br />
(or conform) in order to possess the truth (knowledge). This is<br />
not really idiosyncratic. The problems of &#8220;knowledge&#8221; are<br />
construed in the idealistic tradition (within which Van Til<br />
matured philosophically) with a concern for relating the subject<br />
of knowing to that which is known; discussions of &#8220;the nature<br />
of thought&#8221; take a special place, all of them focusing on<br />
knowledge as an act of mind. Knowing is an activity relating a<br />
mind to the truths known by it. Anyway, in Van Til&#8217;s perspective,<br />
all cases of knowledge are concrete acts of knowing, either by<br />
God or by man. For man to know the proposition that &#8220;2 is the<br />
square root of 4&#8243; or that &#8220;Mecca fell to the forces of Mohammed<br />
in 630&#8243; is to know something of God&#8217;s thinking. If these are<br />
called &#8220;ideas,&#8221; they are ideas &#8220;in God&#8217;s mind&#8221; (about things that<br />
are, nonetheless, not identical with God). God&#8217;s &#8220;thought<br />
content&#8221; actively makes these things so (i.e., actively makes the<br />
truth), while man&#8217;s &#8220;thought content&#8221; does not (being passive<br />
with regard to the truth).</p>
<p>Gordon Clark unnecessarily cast Van Til&#8217;s terminology in a highly<br />
negative light. Likewise, Ronald Nash deems &#8220;the most serious<br />
objection&#8221; to Van Til&#8217;s position to be Clark&#8217;s criticism, namely:<br />
&#8220;According to Van Til, God&#8217;s knowledge and man&#8217;s knowledge do<br />
not (and cannot) coincide at a single point, from which it follows<br />
that no proposition can mean the same thing to God and man&#8221;<br />
(&#8220;Attack on Human Autonomy,&#8221; 349). Similarly, after expressing<br />
extensive appreciation for the apologetical work of Van Til,<br />
Robert L. Reymond says that, nevertheless, his major concerns is<br />
with Van Til&#8217;s doctrine of &#8220;analogical&#8221; knowledge because by it<br />
God&#8217;s knowledge and man&#8217;s knowledge do not &#8220;coincide&#8221; at a single<br />
point &#8220;as to content&#8221; (The Justification of Knowledge [Nutley,<br />
N.J.: Presbyterian and Reformed, 1976], 98-105). But Reymond has<br />
not taken the reference to &#8220;content&#8221; in the way Van Til intended<br />
(namely, referring to the active experience of the mind&#8217;s knowing<br />
something). This misreading is evident when Reymond, indicating<br />
how he had interpreted Van Til, writes: &#8220;The solution to all of<br />
Van Til&#8217;s difficulties is to affirm, as Scriptures teaches, that<br />
both God and man share the same concept of truth and the same<br />
theory of language&#8221; (p.105). But it is clear from Van Til&#8217;s own<br />
words that &#8220;no coincidence&#8221; in &#8220;content&#8221; never meant a difference<br />
in the knowledge, truth, theory of truth, meaning, or theory of<br />
meaning regarding that which God and man both know.</p>
<p>10.2    In the beginning of the Clark-Van Til Controversy, the term &#8220;thought<br />
content&#8221; has a clear enough meaning.</p>
<p>Recall from the summary of [The Text of a Complaint] by Hoeksema<br />
(see section 4.2 above) &#8211; at the beginning of the Controversy,<br />
“content” refers to propositions.</p>
<p>In the context of the object of knowledge, &#8220;thought content&#8221; refers<br />
to propositions.</p>
<p>This is because a person knows truths and all truths are<br />
propositional.</p>
<p>Thus the object of knowledge is a proposition.</p>
<p>What a person think about when he knows truths is a proposition.</p>
<p>Thus, in the context of the object of knowledge, &#8220;thought content&#8221;<br />
refers to propositions.</p>
<p>10.3    As I have repeatedly indicated, in the beginning of the Controversy<br />
Van Til applied the creator-creature distinction to the object of<br />
knowledge.</p>
<p>And Clark has pointed out the skeptical implications of this move.</p>
<p>Van Til, unwilling to admit that he has made a mistake in filing<br />
[The Text of a Complaint] against Clark, became fuzzy about the term<br />
&#8220;thought content&#8221;.</p>
<p>Bahnsen picked up on that: The vague expression &#8220;thought content&#8221;<br />
has played havoc in many a theological and philosophical dispute,<br />
and its ability to generate confusion was conspicuous in the Clark-<br />
Van Til controversy as well.</p>
<p>But in the beginning of the Controversy, &#8220;thought content&#8221; was not<br />
vague.</p>
<p>&#8220;Thought content&#8221; refers to propositions.</p>
<p>It was only after Clark pointed out the skeptical implications of<br />
Van Til&#8217;s position that Van Til began to fudge on this term.</p>
<p>Van Til became vague and ambiguous in order to hide the fact that<br />
he has no case left against Clark.</p>
<p>In order to save the face of his teacher Van Til, Bahnsen made a<br />
heroic effort by redefining the term &#8220;thought content&#8221;.</p>
<p>How does Bahnsen do so?</p>
<p>Bahnsen: I believe that by &#8220;thought content&#8221; Van Til meant the<br />
thinking activity in which the mind of God engages, which mental<br />
&#8220;experience&#8221; (notice the very next sentence in Van Til&#8217;s text) is<br />
metaphysically different from the operations of man&#8217;s mind.</p>
<p>The natural meaning of &#8220;thought content&#8221; is an object of thought.</p>
<p>Now Bahnsen has to torturously redefine &#8220;thought content&#8221; as<br />
&#8220;thinking activity&#8221; or &#8220;mental experience&#8221; in order to rescue Van Til<br />
from skepticism.</p>
<p>Like Frame, Bahnsen tried to shift the ground of debate.</p>
<p>Frame does so to resolve the Clark-Van Til Controversy.</p>
<p>Bahnsen does so to cover-up for Van Til.</p>
<p>Bahnsen tried to shift the ground of debate from &#8220;propositions&#8221; (an<br />
object of thought) to &#8220;thinking activity&#8221; (the mechanism of<br />
knowledge acquisition) or &#8220;mental experience&#8221; (the subject of<br />
knowledge).</p>
<p>10.4    I do not find Bahnsen&#8217;s redefinition convincing for three reasons:</p>
<p>(a)    Bahnsen based his redefinition on Van Til&#8217;s An Introduction to<br />
Systematic Theology.</p>
<p>(The relevant section of Bahnsen’s book is “section 4.5<br />
Thinking God’s Thoughts after Him” (Bahnsen 1998, 220-260).</p>
<p>Throughout this section, the main and earliest writing of Van<br />
Til’s Bahnsen appealed to is An Introduction to Systematic<br />
Theology.)</p>
<p>According to Bahnsen&#8217;s own &#8220;Bibliography of Van Til&#8217;s Works<br />
Cited&#8221; (Bahnsen 1998, 737), An Introduction to Systematic<br />
Theology was first published in 1949.</p>
<p>But the Clark-Van Til Controversy was ended before 1949!</p>
<p>How can Clark and his supporters studied a work published<br />
after the Controversy in order to determine what Van Til<br />
meant by the term &#8220;thought content&#8221; during the controversy?</p>
<p>This is patently unreasonable.</p>
<p>To be convincing, Bahnsen needed to quote from [The Text<br />
of a Complaint] itself.</p>
<p>Van Til is notorious for leaving his key terms vague and<br />
undefined.</p>
<p>If it can be done, let those who come after Bahnsen built<br />
their case for Van Til against Clark from [The Text of a<br />
Complaint]!</p>
<p>(b)    Bahnsen redefinition left the rationale for the Clark-Van Til<br />
Controversy hanging in the air.</p>
<p>If Van Til meant by &#8220;thought content&#8221; thinking activity or<br />
mental experience, then why did Van Til complained against<br />
Clark?</p>
<p>Clark never denied that God and man have different thinking<br />
activity or mental experience.</p>
<p>Bahnsen’s redefinition has left Van Til with no reason to<br />
complain against Clark.</p>
<p>(c)    As we have already noted, John M. Frame in 1995 claimed to<br />
make two original proposals to resolve the Clark-Van Til<br />
Controversy:</p>
<p>(i) Contents as experience, and</p>
<p>(ii) Contents as attributes.</p>
<p>If Frame proposal in 1995 was original, then Bahnsen claimed<br />
that in 1949 Van Til already meant &#8220;thought content&#8221; as<br />
mental experience cannot be true.</p>
<p>10.5    The ambiguity associated with the term &#8220;thought content&#8221; was of<br />
Van Til&#8217;s own making.</p>
<p>Van Til has to keep the term ambiguous in order to hide the fact<br />
that he has no case left against Clark.</p>
<p>Bahnsen, anxious to save the face of his mentor, compounded the<br />
ambiguity by redefining &#8220;thought content&#8221; as either thinking activity<br />
or mental experience.</p>
<p>Bahnsen even complained: Gordon Clark unnecessarily cast<br />
Van Til&#8217;s terminology in a highly negative light. Likewise, Ronald<br />
Nash deems &#8220;the most serious objection&#8221; to Van Til&#8217;s position to<br />
be Clark&#8217;s criticism, namely: &#8220;According to Van Til, God&#8217;s knowledge<br />
and man&#8217;s knowledge do not (and cannot) coincide at a single<br />
point, from which it follows that no proposition can mean the<br />
same thing to God and man&#8221; (&#8220;Attack on Human Autonomy,&#8221; 349).<br />
Similarly, after expressing extensive appreciation for the<br />
apologetical work of Van Til, Robert L. Reymond says that,<br />
nevertheless, his major concerns is with Van Til&#8217;s doctrine of<br />
&#8220;analogical&#8221; knowledge because by it God&#8217;s knowledge and man&#8217;s<br />
knowledge do not &#8220;coincide&#8221; at a single point &#8220;as to content&#8221; &#8230;</p>
<p>Bahnsen complained that Gordon Clark, Ronald Nash and Robert<br />
Reymond did not understand Van Til correctly.</p>
<p>But Bahnsen should have nothing to complaint about.</p>
<p>The muddle was of Van Til&#8217;s own making.</p>
<p>Van Til muddles the water in order to hide the fact that he has no<br />
case left against Clark.</p>
<p>11.    Example 4: The two horns of a dilemma</p>
<p>11.1    Bahnsen: But it is clear from Van Til&#8217;s own words that &#8220;no<br />
coincidence&#8221; in &#8220;content&#8221; never meant a difference in the<br />
knowledge, truth, theory of truth, meaning, or theory of meaning<br />
regarding that which God and man both know.</p>
<p>This concluding sentence of Bahnsen is most telling.</p>
<p>If Bahnsen is right, then one wonders what The Clark-Van Til<br />
Controversy is all about.</p>
<p>If Bahnsen last sentence is right, then Van Til owed the whole OPC<br />
an apology for starting The Clark-Van Til Controversy!</p>
<p>11.2    We have to understand that Bahnsen was caught up in a dilemma.</p>
<p>The two horns of the dilemma is this:</p>
<p>(a)    If Van Til believes that &#8220;the knowledge, truth, theory of<br />
truth, meaning, or theory of meaning regarding that which<br />
God and man both know&#8221; is the same, then Van Til agrees<br />
with Clark.</p>
<p>This means Van Til has no cause to complaint against Clark.</p>
<p>(b)    If Van Til believes that &#8220;the knowledge, truth, theory of<br />
truth, meaning, or theory of meaning regarding that which<br />
God and man both know&#8221; is different, then Van Til is reduce<br />
to skepticism.</p>
<p>Again, this means Van Til has no cause to complaint against<br />
Clark.</p>
<p>So what can Bahnsen do?</p>
<p>What Bahnsen did was to cover-up that Van Til has no cause left to<br />
complaint against Clark.</p>
<p>Bahnsen did this by re-defining the term &#8220;thought content&#8221;.</p>
<p>Instead of referring to an object of thought, &#8220;thought content&#8221;<br />
now refers to either thinking activities or mental experience.</p>
<p>Bahnsen cover-up for Van Til by shifting the ground of debate.</p>
<p>11.3    With this switching of meaning in hand, Bahnsen even chided<br />
Clark: &#8220;Gordon Clark unnecessarily cast Van Til&#8217;s terminology in<br />
a highly negative light&#8221;.</p>
<p>Bahnsen chided Van Til&#8217;s critics for not understanding correctly<br />
what Van Til meant by &#8220;thought content&#8221;.</p>
<p>But by any reasonable standard, the onus is on a writer to define<br />
his terms.</p>
<p>A writer should define his term clearly and unambiguously so that<br />
he can be understood.</p>
<p>Van Til failed to do so.</p>
<p>Van Til and his associates picked a fight and filed a complaint<br />
against Clark.</p>
<p>Clark was forced to response to Van Til&#8217;s vagueness and<br />
ambiguities.</p>
<p>Instead of chiding Van Til for his vagueness and ambiguities,<br />
Bahnsen chided the critics.</p>
<p>How fair is this?</p>
<p>12.    Example 5: When black becomes white</p>
<p>12.1    I do not object to revising our opinions.</p>
<p>In fact, learning from mistakes implies that one has to revise<br />
ones opinions.</p>
<p>But the important thing is that one must be up-front about<br />
one&#8217;s mistakes and changes of mind.</p>
<p>12.2    But for one:</p>
<p>(a)    to make a mistake,</p>
<p>(b)    being point out by a critic that one has made a mistake,</p>
<p>(c)    change one owns position to accommodate the criticism,<br />
but</p>
<p>(d)    turn-around and claim the revised position as one&#8217;s original<br />
position, and then</p>
<p>(e)    accuse the critic of being unfair in characterizing one&#8217;s<br />
&#8220;original&#8221; (really the revised) position</p>
<p>is most distasteful.</p>
<p>This, I am afraid, is what I think Bahnsen has done for Van Til&#8217;s<br />
analogical knowledge.</p>
<p>12.3    What happened was that:</p>
<p>(a)    Van Til claimed that God&#8217;s knowledge and man&#8217;s knowledge<br />
do not coincide at any single point.</p>
<p>(By now, the reader should know that this is a consequence<br />
of Van Til applying the creator-creation distinction to the<br />
object of knowledge.)</p>
<p>(b)    Clark pointed out that Van Til&#8217;s position would lead to<br />
skepticism.</p>
<p>(c)    Bahnsen the revisionist came along and re-define &#8220;thought<br />
content&#8221; as thinking activities or mental experience rather an<br />
object of thought.</p>
<p>(d)    Bahnsen turn-around and claim his re-definition as Van Til&#8217;s<br />
original position.</p>
<p>(e)    And Bahnsen then accused Gordon Clark and John Robbins<br />
of seriously misconstrued what Van Til has taught.</p>
<p>This is most distasteful.</p>
<p>I would have to say this is also dishonest.</p>
<p>12.4    (Bahnsen 1998, 228-229 n.159):</p>
<p>In the 1940s dispute, the Clarkian opponents of Van Til seriously<br />
misconstrued what he taught. The &#8220;Answer&#8221; to the &#8220;Complaint&#8221;<br />
(against Clark&#8217;s views and ordination) charged the Van Tillians<br />
with holding that &#8220;man can grasp only an analogy of the truth<br />
itself.&#8221; Van Til did not teach that what we know is only an<br />
analogy of God (or truth about Him), much less that univocal<br />
predication regarding God must be rejected, but rather that we<br />
know (as well as His creation) analogously to His knowing<br />
Himself (and His creation). A few years following the dispute,<br />
Gordon Clark again portrayed Van Til as holding that propositions<br />
have a different meaning (equivocation) for God and man, and<br />
that man is ignorant of the truth that is in God&#8217;s mind, possessing<br />
only analogy of the truth rather than the truth itself. Thus he<br />
charged Van Til with unrelieved skepticism and neoorthodox<br />
existentialism (&#8220;The Bible as Truth,&#8221; Bibliotheca Sacra 114<br />
[April-June 1957]: 157-70; see also Ronald H. Nash, &#8220;Gordon<br />
Clark&#8217;s Theory of Knowledge,&#8221; in The Philosophy of Gordon H.<br />
Clark, ed. Ronald H. Nash [Philadelphia: Presbyterian and<br />
Reformed, 1968], 162). Clark acknowledged that his negative<br />
characterizations of Van Til&#8217;s position were contrary to what Van<br />
Til himself said, but he reasoned that the way Van Til expressed<br />
certain things implied those characterizations &#8211; in which case Van<br />
Til must have been &#8220;retracting&#8221; his affirmations of man&#8217;s<br />
knowledge of the very truth in God&#8217;s mind. In other words, Clark<br />
thought that Van Til was confused. A handful of contemporary<br />
disciples of Clark have perpetuated this dubious line of argument.<br />
For example, John W. Robbins has declared that Van Til was an<br />
irrationalist who asserted &#8220;that we do not know the same truth<br />
as God knows, but only an analogy of the truth&#8221; (letter to the<br />
editor, Journey Magazine 3, no. 3 [May-June 1988]: 15).</p>
<p>13.    Example 6: Saddling Clark with an error</p>
<p>13.1    In (Bahnsen 1998, 228-229 n.159), Bahnsen claimed that Clark<br />
seriously misconstrued what Van Til taught.</p>
<p>I have already quoted Footnote 159 in full in section 12.4.</p>
<p>I will now evaluate whether Bahnsen&#8217;s claim is correct.</p>
<p>13.2    If one just read Bahnsen and nothing else on The Clark-Van Til<br />
Controversy, then one can be mislead into forming the opinion<br />
that Clark misconstrued Van Til.</p>
<p>But if one read the other documents relating to The Controversy,<br />
one cannot but felt how misleading Bahnsen is.</p>
<p>13.3    I will ask two questions regarding Bahnsen&#8217;s criticism:</p>
<p>(a)    Did Clark misconstrue Van Til&#8217;s term &#8220;thought content&#8221;?</p>
<p>(b)    Regarding human&#8217;s knowledge in relation to God&#8217;s<br />
knowledge, did &#8220;Clark acknowledged that his negative<br />
characterizations of Van Til&#8217;s position was contrary to<br />
what Van Til himself said&#8221;?</p>
<p>13.4    Did Clark misconstrue Van Til&#8217;s term &#8220;thought content&#8221;?</p>
<p>If one accepts Bahnsen&#8217;s re-definition of &#8220;thought content&#8221;, then<br />
Clark certainly did misconstrued Van Til.</p>
<p>But remember, Bahnsen based his re-definition on (Van Til [1949]<br />
1978), a book published after The Clark-Van Til Controversy.</p>
<p>Let me re-phrase the question then: Did Clark misconstrues Van<br />
Til&#8217;s &#8220;thought content&#8221; of [The Text of a Complaint]?</p>
<p>The following long quotation is from (Clark [1957] 1982, 30-31):</p>
<p>The professors above referred to assert that &#8220;there is a<br />
qualitative difference between the contents of the knowledge of<br />
God and the contents of the knowledge possible to man&#8221; (The Text,<br />
p. 5, col. 1). That there is a most important qualitative<br />
difference between the knowledge situation in the case of God and<br />
the knowledge situation for man cannot possibly be denied without<br />
repudiating all Christian theism. God is omniscient, His knowledge<br />
is not acquired, and His knowledge according to common<br />
terminology is intuitive while man&#8217;s is discursive. These are some of<br />
the differences and doubtless the list could be extended. But if both<br />
God and man know, there must be with the differences be at least<br />
one point of similarity; for if there were no point of similarity,<br />
it would be inappropriate to use the one term &#8220;knowledge&#8221; in both<br />
cases. Whether this point of similarity is to be found in the<br />
contents of knowledge or whether the contents differ, depends on<br />
what is meant by the term &#8220;contents&#8221;. Therefore, more specifically<br />
worded statements are needed. The theory under discussion goes on<br />
to say: &#8220;We dare not maintain that his knowledge and our knowledge<br />
coincide at any single point&#8221; (ibid., p. 5, col. 3); and the authors<br />
repudiate another view on the grounds that &#8220;a proposition would<br />
have to have the same meaning for God as for man&#8221; (ibid., p. 7,<br />
col. 3). These statements are by no means vague. The last one<br />
identifies content and meaning so that the content of God&#8217;s<br />
knowledge is not its intuitive character, for example, but meaning<br />
of the propositions, such as David killed Goliath. Twice it is<br />
denied that a proposition can mean the same thing for God and man;<br />
and to make it unmistakable they say that God&#8217;s knowledge and<br />
man&#8217;s knowledge do not coincide at any single point. Here it will<br />
stand repetition to say that if there is not a single point of<br />
coincidence it is meaningless to use the single term &#8220;knowledge&#8221;<br />
for both God and man. Spinoza in attacking Christianity argued<br />
that the term &#8220;intellect&#8221; as applied to God and as applied to man<br />
was completely equivocal, just as the term &#8220;dog&#8221; is applied to a<br />
four-legged animal that barks and to the star in the sky. In such<br />
a case, therefore, if knowledge be defined, either God knows and<br />
man cannot or man knows and God cannot. If there is not a single<br />
point of coincidence, God and man cannot have the same thing,<br />
viz., knowledge.</p>
<p>13.5    Bahnsen alluded to Clark&#8217;s &#8220;The Bible As Truth&#8221; (1957) and claimed<br />
that Clark has misconstrued Van Til.</p>
<p>That is, Bahnsen claimed that Clark has misconstrued Van Til<br />
according to his (Bahnsen&#8217;s) own re-definition of Van Til&#8217;s &#8220;thought<br />
content&#8221;.</p>
<p>Remember, Bahnsen&#8217;s re-definition used (Van Til [1949] 1978) as<br />
his authority.</p>
<p>Now Clark did claimed, as Bahnsen puts it: &#8220;Gordon Clark again<br />
portrayed Van Til as holding that propositions have a different<br />
meaning (equivocation) for God and man &#8230; &#8220;.</p>
<p>But notice from the quotation in section 13.4 that three times Clark<br />
quoted from [The Text of a Complaint] to establish what he<br />
understands [The Text of a Complaint] meant by &#8220;content&#8221;.</p>
<p>Clark was very careful in being fair and accurate in stating his<br />
opponent&#8217;s position.</p>
<p>Bahnsen relied on (Van Til [1949] 1978), a book written after the<br />
Clark-Van Til Controversy.</p>
<p>Clark relied on the original source document [The Text of a<br />
Complaint].</p>
<p>Who has the better authority?</p>
<p>Of course Clark did!</p>
<p>(By the way, this should already suggest to the reader that there<br />
is something very wrong with Bahnsen&#8217;s re-definition. Either<br />
Bahnsen did not understand (Van Til [1949] 1978) correctly, or Van<br />
Til has shifted his ground in that book, or both.)</p>
<p>Not only did Clark have the better authority, but in his allusion<br />
to &#8220;The Bible As Truth&#8221; (1957), Bahnsen never challenge Clark on<br />
the ground that Clark has misread [The Text of a Complaint].</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because in re-defining &#8220;thought content&#8221;, Bahnsen was covering-up<br />
for Van Til.</p>
<p>14.    Example 7: Saddling Clark with another error</p>
<p>14.1    My second question is:</p>
<p>Regarding human&#8217;s knowledge in relation to God&#8217;s knowledge, did<br />
&#8220;Clark acknowledged that his negative characterizations of Van<br />
Til&#8217;s position were contrary to what Van Til himself said&#8221;?</p>
<p>14.2    In answering this question, please keep in mind that we are<br />
considering 5 different documents.</p>
<p>In chronological sequence, they are:</p>
<p>(a)    [The Text of a Complaint] by Van Til and his colleagues;</p>
<p>(b)    [The Answer] by Clark and his supporters;</p>
<p>(c)    [The Incomprehensibility of God] by A Committee for the<br />
Complainants.</p>
<p>(d)    &#8221;Chapter 13 &#8211; The Incomprehensibility of God&#8221; of (Van Til<br />
[1949] 1978) by Van Til; and</p>
<p>(e)    &#8221;The Bible As Truth&#8221; (1957) by Clark.</p>
<p>14.3    [The Text of a Complaint] is the document by Van Til and his<br />
supporters that started The Clark-Van Til Controversy.</p>
<p>[The Answer] is the original response by Clark and his supporters<br />
to [The Text of a Complaint].</p>
<p>In [The Answer], Clark pointed out the claim that &#8220;there is a<br />
qualitative difference between the contents of the knowledge of<br />
God and the contents of the knowledge possible to man&#8221; would<br />
lead to skepticism for human knowledge.</p>
<p>I think Van Til and his supporters felt the force of Clark criticism.</p>
<p>But the Van Tilians did not have the courage to admit they were<br />
wrong and retract [The Text of a Complaint].</p>
<p>What they did was they surreptitiously shifted their ground of<br />
complaining.</p>
<p>For then on, the claims on the Van Til side became vague and<br />
ambiguous and fuzzy.</p>
<p>[The Incomprehensibility of God] by A Committee for the<br />
Complainants is a response by the Van Tilians to [The Answer].</p>
<p>&#8220;Chapter 13 &#8211; The Incomprehensibility of God&#8221; of (Van Til [1949]<br />
1978) was Van Til&#8217;s post-mortem of the Controversy.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Bible As Truth&#8221; (1957) was Clark&#8217;s post-mortem of the<br />
Controversy.</p>
<p>14.4    The following quotation is from Clark&#8217;s &#8220;The Bible As Truth&#8221; (1957).</p>
<p>This paragraph follows immediately the paragraph I quoted in<br />
section 13.4.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Bible As Truth&#8221; (1957), pages 31-32:</p>
<p>After these five professors had signed this co-operative<br />
pronouncement some of them published an explanation of it in<br />
which they said: &#8220;Man may and does know the same truth that<br />
is in the divine mind &#8230; [yet] when man says that God is eternal<br />
he cannot possibly have in mind a conception of eternity that is<br />
identical or that coincides with God&#8217;s own thought of eternity&#8221;<br />
(A Committee for the Complainants, &#8220;The Incomprehensibility<br />
of God&#8221;, p.3). In this explanatory statement it is asserted that<br />
the same truth may and does occur in man&#8217;s mind and in God&#8217;s.<br />
This of course means that there is at least one point of<br />
coincidence between God&#8217;s knowledge and ours. But while<br />
they seem to retract their former position in one line, they<br />
reassert it in what follows. It seems that when man says God<br />
is eternal he cannot possibly have in mind what God means<br />
when God asserts His own eternity. Presumably the concept<br />
&#8220;eternity&#8221; is an example standing for all concepts, so that the<br />
general position would be that no concept can be predicated<br />
of a subject by man in the same sense in which it is predicated<br />
by God. But if a predicate does not mean the same thing to man<br />
as it does to God, then, if God&#8217;s meaning is the correct one, it<br />
follows that man&#8217;s meaning is incorrect and he is therefore<br />
ignorant of the truth that is in God&#8217;s mind.</p>
<p>14.5    Regarding human&#8217;s knowledge in relation to God&#8217;s knowledge,<br />
Bahnsen claimed that &#8220;Clark acknowledged that his negative<br />
characterizations of Van Til&#8217;s position were contrary to what<br />
Van Til himself said &#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Did Clark make such acknowledgement?</p>
<p>Did Clark misread [The Text of a Complaint]?</p>
<p>Bahnsen gave his readers the impression that Clark knew that his<br />
characterizations of Van Til&#8217;s position were contrary to what Van<br />
Til himself said, but Clark did it anyway.</p>
<p>Is that what Clark did?</p>
<p>Now that the relevant paragraphs from &#8220;The Bible As Truth&#8221; (1957)<br />
have been quoted in full, the reader can see that Clark was<br />
commenting on two different documents.</p>
<p>Three times Clark quoted from [The Text of a Complaint] to establish<br />
his understanding of Van Til&#8217;s &#8220;thought content&#8221;.</p>
<p>Then Clark quoted from [The Incomprehensibility of God] by A<br />
Committee for the Complainants to show that there is a shift in Van<br />
Til&#8217;s position.</p>
<p>Did Clark knowingly characterize Van Til&#8217;s position contrary to<br />
what Van Til himself said?</p>
<p>The answer is an emphatic no.</p>
<p>To make his mentor Van Til looks good, Bahnsen has to conflate<br />
Clark&#8217;s comments on two different documents in order to come up<br />
with that suggestion.</p>
<p>How fair is Bahnsen to Clark?</p>
<p>15.    Conclusion: My take of what happened</p>
<p>(a)    When Van Til first filed [The Text of a Complaint] against<br />
Clark, Van Til meant by &#8220;thought content&#8221; an object of<br />
thought.</p>
<p>When the object of thought is also an object of knowledge,<br />
&#8220;thought content&#8221; refers to a truth or proposition.</p>
<p>If by &#8220;thought content&#8221; Van Til meant a proposition, then<br />
there is a genuine difference between the position of Van<br />
Til and Clark.</p>
<p>If by &#8220;thought content&#8221; Van Til meant a proposition, one can<br />
understand why Van Til would file a complaint against Clark.</p>
<p>(b)    In [The Answer], Clark pointed out that if the object of God&#8217;s<br />
thought and the object of human thought do not coincide at<br />
any single point, then human persons is reduce to skepticism.</p>
<p>(c)    Van Til felt the force of Clark&#8217;s criticism.</p>
<p>But Van Til did not have the courage to admit that he made a<br />
mistake and retract [The Text of a Complaint].</p>
<p>What Van Til did was that he surreptitiously shifted his<br />
ground by being vague and ambiguous about what he meant<br />
by &#8220;thought content&#8221;.</p>
<p>This can be seen in [The Incomprehensibility of God] by A<br />
Committee for the Complainants.</p>
<p>(d)    Van Til&#8217;s main post-mortem of The Controversy was &#8220;Chapter<br />
13 &#8211; The Incomprehensibility of God&#8221; in (Van Til [1949] 1978).</p>
<p>(e)    Clark&#8217;s main post-mortem of The Controversy was &#8220;The Bible<br />
As Truth&#8221; (1957).</p>
<p>(f)    Bahnsen defended Van Til against Clark.</p>
<p>But Bahnsen was not able to build a case against Clark from<br />
the source document [The Text of a Complaint].</p>
<p>And Bahnsen also felt the force of Clark&#8217;s criticism.</p>
<p>What Bahnsen did was he used (Van Til [1949] 1978) to help<br />
built a case against Clark.</p>
<p>But Van Til, whom also felt the force of Clark&#8217;s criticism, has<br />
already surreptitiously shifted his ground in (Van Til [1949]<br />
1978).</p>
<p>Instead of frankly admitting that Van Til has made a mistake,<br />
Bahnsen perpetuated Van Til&#8217;s mistake by re-defining &#8220;thought<br />
content&#8221; as thinking activities or mental experience.</p>
<p>Since Clark never denied that either the thinking activities or<br />
the mental experience of God and man are different, the<br />
up-shot of this cover-up is that Bahnsen has left Van Til with no<br />
cause to complain against Clark.</p>
<p>Bahnsen has left the rationale for the Clark-Van Til Controversy<br />
hanging in the air.</p>
<p>And given Bahnsen popularity as a writer, he perpetuated the<br />
cover-up to the next generation of readers.</p>
<p>(g)    Now contrast how Frame and Bahnsen understand Van Til&#8217;s<br />
application of the creator-creation distinction to the object of<br />
knowledge:</p>
<p>(i)    (Frame 1995, 89):</p>
<p>Van Til sums up these emphases in the term analogy.<br />
Human knowledge is &#8220;analogous&#8221; to God&#8217;s, which means<br />
that it is (a) created and therefore different from God&#8217;s<br />
own knowledge, and (2) subject to God’s control and<br />
authority: &#8230;</p>
<p>(ii)    (Bahnsen 1998, 227 n.152):</p>
<p>&#8230; But it is clear from Van Til&#8217;s own words that &#8220;no<br />
coincidence&#8221; in &#8220;content&#8221; never meant a difference in<br />
the knowledge, truth, theory of truth, meaning, or<br />
theory of meaning regarding that which God and man<br />
both know.</p>
<p>We can see that Frame is faithful to Van Til’s application of the<br />
creator-creation distinction to the object of knowledge.</p>
<p>According to Frame, for Van Til, human knowledge is created<br />
and therefore different from God&#8217;s own knowledge.</p>
<p>Bahnsen take the contradictory position.</p>
<p>Bahnsen denied the application of the creator-creation<br />
distinction to the object of knowledge.</p>
<p>Recall that a proposition is itself the bearer of truth and<br />
meaning.</p>
<p>In denying that there is a difference in the truth and meaning<br />
that God and man both know, Bahnsen denied the application<br />
of the creator-creation to the object of knowledge.</p>
<p>Bahnsen saved Van Til from the criticism of Clark, but at the<br />
expense of surreptitiously surrendering to Clark&#8217;s position.</p>
<p>For those of us who are sympathetic to Clark, we can take<br />
comfort in Bahnsen&#8217;s statement: But it is clear from Van Til&#8217;s<br />
own words that &#8220;no coincidence&#8221; in &#8220;content&#8221; never meant a<br />
difference in the knowledge, truth, theory of truth, meaning,<br />
or theory of meaning regarding that which God and man both<br />
know.</p>
<p>For in making this statement, Bahnsen has conceded the Clark-<br />
Van Til Controversy to Gordon H. Clark!</p>
<p>REFERENCE LIST</p>
<p>Bahnsen, Greg L. 1998. Van Til&#8217;s Apologetic: Readings and Analysis.<br />
Phillipsburg, New Jersey: Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing<br />
Company.</p>
<p>Clark, Gordon H. [1957] 1982. The Bible As Truth. Reprinted in God&#8217;s<br />
Hammer: The Bible and Its Critics, 24-38. Jefferson, Maryland: The<br />
Trinity Foundation.</p>
<p>Frame, John M. 1995. Cornelius Van Til: An Analysis of His Thought.<br />
Phillipsburg, New Jersey: Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing<br />
Company.</p>
<p>Hoeksema, Herman. [1940s] 1995. The Clark-Van Til Controversy. Hobbs,<br />
New Mexico: The Trinity Foundation.</p>
<p>Robbins, John W. 1986. Cornelius Van Til: The Man and the Myth. Jefferson,<br />
Maryland: The Trinity Foundation.</p>
<p>Van Til, Cornelius. [1949] 1978. An Introduction to Systematic Theology.<br />
Phillipsburg, New Jersey: Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing<br />
Company.</p>
<p>Weaver, Gilbert B. [1971] 1980. Man: Analogue of God. In Jerusalem and<br />
Athens: Critical Discussions on the Philosophy and Apologetics of<br />
Cornelius Van Til,     ed. E.R. Geehan, 321-327. Phillipsburg, New<br />
Jersey: Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Company.</p>
<p>End.</p>
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		<title>Hello world!</title>
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